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Post by masterslave on Apr 19, 2012 15:28:58 GMT
nah grumbi, i play every day with claude and you. your position isnt wrong
a constant killing of the same person over a half hour or so maybe could be counted as npt. but this? guys come on..
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Post by PrayForHell on Apr 19, 2012 15:29:59 GMT
we arnt the one who started this... its a post on ko4life made by a random
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Post by Dumar on Apr 19, 2012 15:40:04 GMT
Cyrus is stating an opinion he has Claude, that he would not go about farming koxpers just like I don't like killing Atross or Riotes because I find the NP gained pointless and it is not how I play the game, but that is not to say we all play for the same reasons. He is entitled to his opinion in any case.
Also Claude to be fair your main reasons for leaving was due to the fact that you did not have time to work with a clan that wasn't ready made like Outkasted was and you simply didn't want to put in the time needed to do what was done in said Diez clan. You left because you want to PK with other high geared players and that is fair enough like I said to you, as you didn't feel you had the spare time for such an endeavour but please do not blame members of this clan, especially those who have such a big hand in making it what it is, your reason for leaving.
You made it quite clear to Dan that you did not see me as a clan Leader (Although the irony is that up until you were in the clan all choices made within the clan were a joint decision by myself and Dan), but whether you liked the way I did things or not, this clan runs on the same formula as 0utkasted did and is just as successful as that clan was at this stage, and we will continue to grow as am honest, high class pk clan that cares about community and the state of the game.
Like I said the link was posted so you could be made aware of it and defend yourself, as everyone has the right to, so there is no need to start bringing anyone else into this just because of how they wish to play the game.
I sent you both a PM in regards to frags - It may be worth having it running in the background during PK as there is always some wanker shouting hacks/cheats/yo mamma and her overweight ways
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Post by grumbi on Apr 19, 2012 16:50:48 GMT
Dumie, I am not willing to enter in your argument with Claude; personally I left the clan because leaking both of PK and Orcs, this is what i told you and this is what I confirm ). I am also not asking if my point of view on our NT and koxper's killing is right or not ( we can discuss this in another topic ) I am also not saying you ( all clan ) started this topic ( I already thank via PM Dumie to have informed me ). What I want to know is if someone thinks that I did it to have a benefit in terms of nps and in the affirmative who is? It's the only thing that is important to me because this would mean that he/she considers me a cheater..... I am writing this before reading the last PM I received Grumbi
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Post by claude on Apr 19, 2012 17:11:18 GMT
Dumar what you wrote is false, in any case I will answer you in pm
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Post by Dumar on Apr 19, 2012 19:30:20 GMT
Everything I have said is factual and nothing has been spun nor twisted. There would be no gain from such a thing.
There has always been an unwritten rule about farming koxpers since to do so is easy and so any clan who focuses on such a play style would make literally thousands of nps, which of course unbalances the np and ranking system. So ironically doing so is actually worse than leaving them be, since koxpers have no problems when it comes to fuelling their nps to allow them to run their business within cz. This is why the majority of the community avoid farming koxpers and why those who do are frowned upon. We could all set up shop right now to a gold farmers location and make 3-4k np in an hour but that np would not reflect the skill of our clan or our abilities in the colony zone.
I believe at this point nothing can be gained from further discussion of this topic, as there seems to be a clear divide on how both groups see how the game should be played. I wish you both the best of luck as always and in regards to your own leaving the clan Grumbi, or Hakan for that matter no one has any issues what so ever with it. If shiv, or dan went orc I most likely would too since I came back to play the game with them, so no one can argue your own NT was a bad thing.
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Post by shiv on Apr 20, 2012 6:30:40 GMT
personally i say to much drama bout nothing yeah camping koxpers to gain np is abuse i agree killing some koxpers for laughs is fine where oh where does one draw a line and that screenshot tells me nothing ive killed people 7 times in a row and more then once in the same party (Tlax & Doc1 loved to steal the kills back in the days)pure luck that it showed up like that does that make it NP transfer? That and the fact that people scream abuse left right and centre these days just because KO is a game that allows it due to poor programming and lack of care from K2/mgame's side
dont get me wrong im not defending or accusing anyone im just saying tomuch drama about something that's nothing new
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